http://sck5000.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] sck5000.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] ed_rex 2007-02-26 05:43 am (UTC)

Re: Of *Course* He's Stupid

The argument is not intended to prove that there is no god, but that there is no reason to believe in one.

There is one good reason to believe in a God-creator for as long as you can not point to a single other thing anywhere that does not have a creator. Whether it is a Chinese motorcycle, a poem, a tulip or a child -- its origins can be traced to a creator. The reason to believe in a creator for the universe is simply modeling -- all things have creators. Nothing can be demonstrated to spontaneously leap into existence.

Where is your evidence to believe that the universe is the one thing in existence which breaks the model? It's the only thing extant that can spontaneously create itself? How is that largesse that you allow yourself any different from others' belief in God?

The logic is pretty simple, Young G.

a) All things can be shown to have creators, therefore the universe probably has a creator.

or

b) All things can be shown to have creators, therefore the universe probably does not have one.

And yet... you allow yourself the philosophical luxury to believe the second without evidence or reason, and contrary to all modeling. Isn't that the same as faith? How can you be sure that your own faith in the non-God-creator model of the universe isn't just a kind of intellectual pollution carried over from the evils of organized religions, which is entirely separate from the existence of God?


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